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Moderator: You're listening to the Ramblin on the River podcast, presented by BB River Boats. The Bernstein family has been a predominant name in Cincinnati's hospitality landscape since the 1960s, and this podcast will be a collection of the stories, tales, and experiences from their entrepreneurial [00:01:00] endeavors in the restaurant and excursion boat business.

Join as they take you A journey through the family's history in their own unique style. Now, here are your hosts, Ben Terri and Alan Bernstein.

Ben Bernstein: Welcome back to the show. You have made your way to the Ramblin' on the River podcast. We appreciate you listening, my name is Ben Bernstein. I'm joined here by my father Alan. I have a problem with the internet I hear we have my sister Terri. 

Terri Bernstein: How are you? 

Ben Bernstein: You still do you 

Terri Bernstein: I still have a lisp. Yeah, 

Ben Bernstein: there's there it is.

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com and the email level, or the email volume, that's the word I'm looking for, is increasing. Yeah. You 

Terri Bernstein: have a little fan club, Ben. I do, 

Ben Bernstein: I do. 

Terri Bernstein: Hi, Carrie Stier. There, yep. 

Ben Bernstein: Oh no, it's Carrie. That was me. That was me. You know what, for the sake of everybody else, I think we should read the email on air, actually.

So, our beloved fan, Carrie Stier, who is the Owner of the Twilight Riverboat, 

Alan Bernstein2: up 

Ben Bernstein: in 

Alan Bernstein2: On the Mississippi River in LeClaire. Iowa. LeClaire, yeah. LeClaire, Iowa. Iowa. 

Ben Bernstein: Somewhere. Not Illinois.

One of those, one of those states up there. Yeah. But Carrie addresses it Ben! I know I'm gonna be on your sister's shit list for saying this, but you do an amazing job as the podcast moderator. You are great at summarizing the topic when needed and getting the other two back on track when [00:03:00] necessary, which is often.

Your voice is clear and strong and easy to listen to as well. Keep up the good work. I am enjoying listening. How great. of an email, is that? I don't, Terri, do you have a comment about that email? 

Terri Bernstein: I don't even have a comment? I have 

Ben Bernstein: a comment. Does it get any better than that? How many people have emailed the show and said something that nice about you?

Terri Bernstein2: Although we would not have a show without Al. 

Ben Bernstein: Well, 

Alan Bernstein2: that's true. He's the whole reason we have a show. I have a comment about Carrie's comment. Okay. Carrie and I have a very special relationship. Okay. I don't know if this is where, where's this going go on. And I think Carrie has always had a hearing problem.

She, she doesn't hear well. You're not off to a good start.

Good for her. Carrie keep making comments about my little [00:04:00] snookums and we'll keep doing. Podcast. Absolutely. This was, 

But no, wait, I want to tell you a segment of the show we've ever done. I have to tell you a story about Terri Bernstein's lisp. Yeah. 

Terri Bernstein2: Oh God. 

Alan Bernstein2: Yesterday I am at a, a group of people from all over the country and specifically Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Kentucky and a few others.

But. A guy got up to speak, and he said, Ladies and gentlemen, I normally have teeth when I speak. And you know how when people without teeth their lips are drawn in. You know, you can, 

Ben Bernstein: there's nothing there. There's nothing there to push 

Alan Bernstein2: them out. And everybody sort of chuckled.

And he said I just have to tell you, I have to explain why I don't have any teeth. And he said, normally I have teeth. It And someone, someone yelled, but you're in [00:05:00] Kentucky. It's okay. Anyway, he got up and explained it to Terri, one of his children knocked two or three of his teeth out, but we were playing something.

I don't know. Baseball, football, whatever. It's almost as 

Terri Bernstein2: good as me walking through target and slipping and hitting my face on the cart, which breaking the bones in the front of my mouth. So 

Alan Bernstein2: Anyway, so, but 

Terri Bernstein2: mine will be fixed 

 So we're onto our 11th episode and this one's going to be a little fun.

Ben Bernstein: So this episode, we we're gonna go to the lighter side of things.

we've talked about some deeper topics, some more informative topics. I don't know what the best word would be about our history. This is probably gonna be a first part of many. Oh, yeah, our bloopers are This is gonna be a blooper story. So part one as we will call it and I don't know if it's bloopers I think it's more like mishaps[00:06:00] 

Some of them come from very serious situations. 

Alan Bernstein2: Yes, but nobody got hurt and 

Ben Bernstein: none of this is, But this is going to be bloopers in a sense of these are going to be Operator error. This is going to be a, no, a conglomeration of some funny stories from our history. Yes. So like, we'll get started.

Alan Bernstein2: Get around everybody! It's story time! On Ramblin 

Speaker 3: on the River! 

Alan Bernstein2: Ramblin on the River! I love the little laugh in the background. I do too, I love it. You notice that I'm a little late on Ramblin on the River. 

Ben Bernstein: So when you get your captain's license and you start operating a boat There are certain things that you set out to do every cruise.

One of them is, you know, keeping the boat between the bank being safe, you know, avoiding accidents like that. Right. And there are things on the river called aids to navigation. They are there to help [00:07:00] you to get you from point A to point B. And in a safe way, they could mark any number of things.

They could mark obstructions. They could mark shallow water. And really that is to keep you from running aground or at least one of their roles is to keep you from running aground. So if you're. On the wrong side of a buoy. And your boat is boat, the boat is not moving. There's a good chance you're probably pushing against some mud.

Mm-Hmm, that never happens. never happens. Now to some, that might happen one time in a career. To others as maybe to the guy across the the desk from me That has happened twice in one day before. Mm hmm. Would you like to tell your story? 

Alan Bernstein2: Oh, I would Well, let me explain something first When you operate here in Cincinnati, we operate basically on the same route, every cruise, every day.

There [00:08:00] are some changes and sometimes the weather is iffy here and you'll go there and whatever. When you travel, and we tend to travel a lot And you go into waters that are unknown. You have to change a lot of your focus to. The river chart and understanding what the river chart says and day marks and all that.

Ben Bernstein: We were on the Tennessee River many years . We were on a river, so a few I don't know, 15 years ago maybe. We did a, it probably was 15 years, maybe, actually, maybe it wasn't. It's 

Terri Bernstein2: exactly, well, it will be 15 years in November. It 

Ben Bernstein: doesn't matter, but a river hop.

Well, let's set the scene. Yeah. We used to do cruises called river hops. Right. Overnight cruises. We would stop each night, take people to a hotel. Hotels. And get back on in the morning. Right. We did a seven night cruise. Because we're not an overnight boat and they cannot sleep on a boat. 

Alan Bernstein2: Correct. 

Ben Bernstein: So, we did a seven night cruise to Chattanooga, [00:09:00] Tennessee, which is where at the time, the Delta Queen had been taken and it was operating as a riverside hotel.

And that is the scene. Okay. All right. Okay. 

Alan Bernstein2: Now the way to get to Chattanooga. would be to drive down I 75, and about five and a half hours later, you're there. To get to Chattanooga by boat, it is a multi day About 500 miles down the river. It's 500 miles down the Ohio River, and then Chattanooga is about 500 and some miles up the Tennessee River.

Correct. And that takes about four or five days. 

Ben Bernstein: To, to do a point A to point B is probably 4, 5, 

Alan Bernstein2: 4, 5, yeah. Days. Right. 

Terri Bernstein2: We've 

Alan Bernstein2: gone down the Ohio River we have turned and gone into The Tennessee River. We have turned into the 

the Tennessee River at mile zero And we've come up about 24 or 25 miles to the dam 

Terri Bernstein2: Mm 

Alan Bernstein2: hmm. Which is the Kentucky [00:10:00] Dam. Now you're in the land between the lakes. You go through the lock and now you are in the land between the lakes. . The lakes 

Ben Bernstein: specifically is the land between Lake Barkley. The 240 

Alan Bernstein2: miles of land between the two lakes. Lake Barkley and Kentucky Lake. Kentucky Lake are the two lakes that the land between the lakes covers.

Yes. And that is a wildlife refuge. Beautiful place to vacation. Very few residents. It's a beautiful place in the river. Absolutely gorgeous. So you have to go all the way up the Tennessee River to the next lock which is Pickwick Lock & Dam. Are you positive?

I think, 

Terri Bernstein2: yeah. 

Alan Bernstein2: I think it is. Well, I mean, 

Terri Bernstein2: I don't know if it's the next one, but I Pickwick. Yeah, 

Alan Bernstein2: Pickwick. I believe that. There are many mariners on here. I know. Well, see, if I said Pickwick and it wasn't right, then we'll get a lot of mail. You could have brought a 

Terri Bernstein2: chart with us. 

Alan Bernstein2: Well, I've got one upstairs.

But anyway, and after we got through Pickwick, Lock and Dam. There was an [00:11:00] area that was absolutely gorgeous and it was a large body of water, a 

Terri Bernstein2: big wide open area, 

Alan Bernstein2: beautiful lake off of the river. And so I thought unscripted and uncharted,

I took the Belle of Cincinnati in to the inlet, not knowing If there was enough water for the Belle of Cincinnati or not. And we I don't think, I don't think Terri remembers it 

Terri Bernstein2: that way. I remember looking out the window and there were buoys of where you were supposed to be and not supposed to be.

Alan Bernstein2: That's on the river. 

We went off the river. 

Ben Bernstein: The river definitely has buoys. And just so everybody knows, The river, I say that in quotation marks, in this area, picture Lake Cumberland, okay? Yeah. And then you, you have a channel defined by buoys in the middle.

That channel defined by the buoys is the quote unquote [00:12:00] river. 

If you were An unknowing person, you would look at it all and think, Hey, that's the lake. 

Alan Bernstein2: That's right. And the reason they put that there is so that a commercial boat such as ours does not run the ground, should not go outside those buoys, but you were sitting there and said, you know what?

Those aren't for me. No, I didn't say it that way. I said, it appears from the information that I have, that the lake part of this is deep water, it doesn't say, you know, Don't you have a 

Terri Bernstein2: depth finder in the pilot house? Yeah. 

Alan Bernstein2: Yes. I have a lot of equipment up there. Was it on? Yes. Here's 

Terri Bernstein2: what happened to me.

I'm on the second deck, I go down to the galley, I'm checking things out, helping Yeah, but you're 

Alan Bernstein2: not paying attention. 

Terri Bernstein2: I, Kind of noticed what we were doing. I go down the galley. Were you paying attention? I spent about 30 minutes in the galley, and I come back up, and our paddle wheel is [00:13:00] going like it's never gone before.

And I'm looking around and I'm like, this is where we were when I went down to the galley 30 minutes ago.

I wonder what's going on. 

Alan Bernstein2: Well, that might be an exaggeration. Maybe. But. 

Terri Bernstein2: I think it was because the paddle wheel wasn't even in the water. So you left the 

Alan Bernstein2: channel.

I left the channel and we went around this beautiful lake and now we're headed out back to the river. From the lake to the river. All scenery stops moving. They. 

Terri Bernstein: You hear the paddle wheel go forward, you hear the paddle wheel go in reverse. 

Alan Bernstein2: Anyway, we were hard of ground.

That, that is true. And, 

Terri Bernstein: I think the paddle wheel was literally out of the water. It wasn't hitting any water. Yeah, there's a picture 

Alan Bernstein2: of the paddle wheel out of the water. But I, I think that might be photoshopped. I'm not sure. Anyway, 

So now we go into And at the time, we have what?

We have over 200 people. Oh, yeah. I 

Terri Bernstein2: think it was about 150. Oh, no, you're right. But it was a seven day trip, so it was a [00:14:00] very expensive trip. 

Ben Bernstein: Because the Delta Queen only holds 150 people, doesn't it? That's right. And I think we have been a 

Terri Bernstein2: disaster if we would have had to return all those people's money.

Alan Bernstein2: Well, forget the money part, but now we have 200, 150 people, we're hard of ground in the middle of a huge body of water. 

Terri Bernstein2: And nowhere. There's nothing around. There's not a 

Alan Bernstein2: city. There's not a chimney. There's not a tower. seen a boat 

Terri Bernstein2: for hours, maybe days. Yeah. 

Ben Bernstein: Now, thankfully. Thankfully, we thought, you know, when you go on a Caribbean cruise, there are many ports they can't pull into.

Mm hmm. So they anchor way out, you know, a couple miles out away from the port, and they have either as part of the boat or that comes from whatever mainland they're going to, they have a tender or a ferry boat that comes out, takes their passengers. Off of the boat to the port.

Now, luckily we had [00:15:00] the foresight to bring our own tender. Okay, 

Terri Bernstein2: you and I did not. This was dad's 

Ben Bernstein: great 

Terri Bernstein2: creation. The 

Ben Bernstein: self propelled barge. We made fun of him 

Terri Bernstein2: and he kept saying, 

Ben Bernstein: I say, you are crazy. What do you 

Terri Bernstein2: think about it now? What do you think about it now? 

Ben Bernstein: This is what was, that's a hundred, a hundred foot by 20 foot wide.

Yep. Flat bars. Yeah, about 80 feet. And you had taken, you took a little outboard off of one of our little runabouts and threw it on the back and said, we're good to go. 

Terri Bernstein2: We did get a Coast Guard inspected though. Yes, 

Alan Bernstein2: it was properly and certificated and everything was good. It was ingenious. I could be categorized as a genius.

Not many of you would agree with that, but I'm sort of in that category. Visionary. Yeah. Visionary. Yeah. So we decided that the best thing to do is to get the passengers off and then worry [00:16:00] with all the stuff to get off of the ground and the coast guard and all the number one concern was getting the passengers to a safe place and, well, not a safe 

Ben Bernstein: place.

They were, they were safe. No, they were safe. They were, there were plenty states where they were, they were to a place, to a, it was a place that they didn't have to sit here and watch us try. Well, not, not only that, but there was, and we need to get the weight off of the boat to hopefully improve our situation.

Our situation. It, it 

Alan Bernstein2: didn't so we decided to get 'em off and we found a landing. Could still see the boat. It wasn't right there. It wasn't right there. You had to travel probably a couple of miles down. And then there was a landing there and there was a road at the end of the landing.

So we figured that road has to go somewhere. And that's where we took the people. We had the buses meet us. And everybody got on a bus. Everybody wanted to stay, actually. The passengers were very intrigued. But we didn't know how long. We might be there a day. We might be there two days. Hell, you could be there a week [00:17:00] waiting for a boat to come by.

But so we got everybody off and they went to a hotel. And they took him around. We ended up doing bus tours and bus tours and Yeah. Yeah. In the meantime, we did contact a boat and a boat came down and tried and tried 

Terri Bernstein2: he took it as a challenge to get us off.

Alan Bernstein2: Yes. 

Terri Bernstein2: He, well he, that was the 

Alan Bernstein2: second guy. Oh 

Terri Bernstein2: yeah. Yes, you're right. The first guy. The 

Alan Bernstein2: first guy said, we're out of here, we'll see you later. No, he 

Terri Bernstein2: said, we'll try a couple times and then we're leaving. Luckily, they changed watch. That's what happened. 

Alan Bernstein2: That's what happened. 

Terri Bernstein2: We, we did run out of water in the meantime, too.

Alan Bernstein2: Well, we were trying to light, lighten the boat. We, you know, the lighter you get, the more free Oh, so you meant, so are you saying you meant to run outta water? No. Okay. The water didn't help and now we're.

Pretty hard to ground. And they changed the watch on the boat. And this second captain came on and said, we're going [00:18:00] to get this thing off of here. 

Terri Bernstein2: But it was a good thing. Cause there was not another boat within two days of that.

Alan Bernstein2: That's right. Oh, have we not gotten 

Terri Bernstein2: off? We would have been there 

Alan Bernstein2: at least two days. So. He takes it a personal challenge to get us the boat off of the ground. And we tied the first line that he ran out. He ran, he changed all the lines and when, when he backed up, the tow boat backed up it snapped the lines immediately, immediately.

I mean, so he says, okay, it's hard to ground. So here's what we're gonna do. It's really on there. 

Terri Bernstein: You did a good job, Cap. 

Alan Bernstein2: So they rearranged everything. And one of our crew members had tied a knot that was untieable once it pulled tight. You know what I'm saying? He didn't tie a 

Terri Bernstein2: knot.

He wrapped the line. It 

Alan Bernstein2: wrapped around something and it got to a knot. It cinched to a point. You [00:19:00] could not move it. I don't think anybody could have moved it. And 

Terri Bernstein2: we had been popping lines for a while. I mean, it was getting 

Alan Bernstein2: And 

Ben Bernstein: when that happens, you really only have one. Well, it 

Alan Bernstein2: was a critical point when they said take the line off.

And he couldn't get the knot. Done. And the Belle of Cincinnati is equipped with a lot of firefighting equipment and there was a fire axe. Very close to him. And he took this fire axe and proceeded 

Terri Bernstein2: He kinda lost his mind a little bit. He absolutely 

Alan Bernstein2: went crazy. He was beating It was a stressful day. It was a stressful day.

He was, he was beating the deck of our boat. I think he 

Terri Bernstein2: was missing the cavel and the line and hitting that there were sparks flying, 

Alan Bernstein2: we could have started a fire. I sure 

Terri Bernstein2: started laughing. I mean, he, he didn't even notice he was going nuts. 

Alan Bernstein2: He was in Lala land and I was bent over. I am out on the tender [00:20:00] boat, the little barge.

I am laughing so hard, I cannot breathe. And everybody else around him, everybody around him is laughing and he is in this zone where he is beating unmercifully. There are still marks, there are still marks in our jack thread. Yes, yes, there are. There are permanent marks. We should mark it. This memorial mark here.

Ha, 

Ben Bernstein: We should go take a picture of them and we should post that. 

Terri Bernstein2: Okay. I'm looking right now to see if I can find the pictures from the, from the trip. We 

Alan Bernstein2: did not get it untied, obviously. We did cut it and then the captain said, Did he cut it or did somebody have to come and cut it? I don't know.

Somebody came and cut it. And, and the captain said, we're going to use my line, Which were those huge lock lines. This is huge. This is a three or four inch I've absolutely, it wasn't Lego string. No, no, 

Terri Bernstein: it was a real 

Alan Bernstein2: deal. We could never afford to buy a line. I mean, it was just that. [00:21:00] And that line and that pool pulled us off the ground.

Now, in the meantime, all of this, this is how many hours, Terri? 

Terri Bernstein: We were there for a long time. 

Alan Bernstein2: So I've given that piece of the story. Now we get a call from the Coast Guard. I 

Terri Bernstein: feel like we were 

Alan Bernstein2: off before the Coast Guard. No. You were probably with the customers. No, no, no. I was on 

Terri Bernstein2: the boat. 

Alan Bernstein2: We get a call. Mr. Bernstein, we're here at the landing. We need to be picked up. So, I. Get off the boat or untie the boat and we go to pick up the tender. I'm on the tender on the self propelled bar.

So I go to pick up the coast guard. We pull into the landing they get on board And We're on our way.

We're on our way and the Coast Guard said we're ready to go. We're ready to go Cap. Come on out of here. Hey Cap, we're ready to leave now. 

Terri Bernstein: A few of the deckhands had to get off the boat and push it out of the way. [00:22:00] 

Alan Bernstein2: I said to the deckhands, a second. They came back, I said, get off this boat and 

Ben Bernstein: push it.

This little 75 horsepower outboard is sitting there shaking and 

Alan Bernstein2: smoking. And so they're pushing it. I'm, I'm doing the best I can to get this thing off the ground. So one of the Coast Guard guys came back and he, he looks at me straight in the eye and he says, Hey Cap, You've you've run aground again.

You're having a bad day, aren't you? I said, yes, I have run aground, but we're going to get off of this. Have run aground twice. Twice in one day. Well, within hours, I don't know. So we get him up to the boat and of course the boat was fine, it was all sand and there was really no damage to anything.

And We, we had to get them back, and I made them jump. 

Terri Bernstein2: You didn't pull all the way in? I didn't pull all 

Alan Bernstein2: the way in because I'm not getting ground on [00:23:00] the third time. And then we got on our way and we met them the next morning. the passengers. I don't remember where, what city, but they pulled the bus right up to the gangway and they all got on.

We 

Terri Bernstein2: made it to Chattanooga. Yeah, and we made it. It was a great trip. It was. It really was. It was probably one of the best ones. 

Alan Bernstein2: It really was. And really 

Terri Bernstein2: the highlight of the trip was the grounding. Yeah. 

Ben Bernstein: For 

Terri Bernstein2: everybody. 

Ben Bernstein: Yeah. So really, historically, our foul ups typically become the greatest Experiences for passengers 

Alan Bernstein2: don't get to see that.

No, they just don't. And As I told you at the beginning many of them do not want to get off the boat. No 

Ben Bernstein: But we had no I mean routinely not that it happens very often But a lot of times both of our boats will be out at the same time And one boat will need something. Well, yeah, we'll run out of beef or well, whatever Whatever bud light bud light.

Yeah, whatever it may be You And then we pull the two together, you know, at midstream, we go, we'll pull the boats together and [00:24:00] inherently, you know, you get a huge crowd of people out and you pull up on both and you get the thing across and you go on your own ways. Well, you're throwing it across and people are really thrown.

Well, they're like, we 

Terri Bernstein2: ran the 

Ben Bernstein: boat and it's. Say it's a loud ovation as you pull out. Yes, it is. Being a captain, it is the most irritating thing. Yes. That I can even, 

Alan Bernstein2: that is really the two groundings in one day story that is a 

Ben Bernstein: I don't know if there's many Mariners around the country that can say that state claim to run. I might be the only one in the world. You 

Alan Bernstein2: could be and No, according to the Coast Guard guy it was a bad day 

Ben Bernstein: So one of those other instances that come up if you're in business and Long enough, or if you're on the river long enough, at some point, no matter how much you can try, [00:25:00] you're going to have to deal with, not necessarily a sinking, but a Oh yeah, yeah.

Taking on water situation. 

Alan Bernstein2: Well, if you get a captain that says none of that's ever happened to him, he's lying. He's either lying to you or he's, or don't go on that boat because 

Ben Bernstein: He's not prepared and he's not very seasoned. That's correct. So we had an excursion boat here before we bought the Belle of Cincinnati. We had a large tow boat barge combo.

That's called the Cincinnati Covington Fun Liner. And another one of our great names for vessels. Right up there with number four. Well, it was a liner looking boat. It was, it was a, it was probably my favorite boats. I worked on it a lot. , it sat 300 people for a meal cruise. Oh yes. For a meal. Yeah. Right. And I worked on it a lot and I really enjoyed that boat. Yeah. But it was ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly. [00:26:00] But 

Alan Bernstein2: we I would not call it ugly. 

Terri Bernstein: It was ugly. It 

Alan Bernstein2: was ugly. I would not call it ugly. I would call it unique and I would call it a river thing.

It was unique. Now 

Ben Bernstein: for our older listeners. It used to operate over on the public landing. It was called the Chaperone. Right. And we actually, we purchased it from the Johnson family. The fun liner consisted of a passenger barge, which was three floors, two enclosed floors and one open air top deck and the tow boat, which was called the Captain Ben after my grandfather, even though he was not a captain we named it the captain Ben. Yes. And one day, probably in the , early nineties, probably feel like it was, it was a Covington landing type time.

The Captain Ben started taking on water. 

Alan Bernstein2: Well, let me preface that by saying we were doing work on. The Captain Ben, this is the engine part of the thing that made it go. Yeah. The, the, the engines are made to [00:27:00] go. Cause the barge did not have any propulsion. It needed a tow boat to move it.

They were 

Ben Bernstein: built to be together. It wasn't a, run the mill tow boat that just came up to a barge. They fit together. In a way that you couldn't just put it, you could put another towboat there, but it wouldn't work to the right.

Alan Bernstein2: Right. And for those of you that are older than I am, because if you're not in your, Mid 70s, you don't know. You're 

Ben Bernstein: not in your mid 70s. I'm getting close. Early 70s. 

Alan Bernstein2: If you're in your mid 70s, you know that there was a engine company. I think it was a World War II company that made a propulsion unit called a Murray and Tagurtha unit.

Murray was the part of the engine that was stationary on the boat and Tagurtha was the outboard under the water outboard propeller and the very heavy duty, very industrial. They actually [00:28:00] put them on barges, bolted them through or welded them down and moved barges all by themselves.

And the reason I say that is because the Murray and Tagurtha unit, they were repairing, they had to put some gaskets in and they thought. That it was designed one way. And when they took the outboard engine part off Water started coming through at an alarming rate. And so they decided that they would quickly do this and try to get it back.

And we're not successful. And so we have water running into the Captain Ben at probably several thousand gallons a minute. And it didn't take long that the Captain Ben. Started to sink attached to the passenger barge. So I was at home. They called [00:29:00] me down. They said, get here right away. I am speeding over the bridge and I look up the river and see the tow boat almost totally submerged.

And I called and I said at this point, just cut it loose and let it go. And they did not, they got it fixed, believe it or not. And we just simply started pumping lots of water and the boat came back up. 

Ben Bernstein: So to, to set that scene a little bit, we were just talking about dad had an intercompany Motorola radio private. It was, you couldn't, it was a private frequency and he had it hardwired into his Lincoln town car. And every time he turned the car on, you hear like the radio coming on and he could drive around the Cincinnati area and talk to all of our boats from his town car. And as he's coming over the suspension bridge, looking down at the Captain Ben, [00:30:00] he is screaming on the mic because just cut it 

Alan Bernstein2: loose, just cut it loose. Cut it. Well, I mean, it was gone when I came over the bridge, but by the time I actually got to BB, cause I had to go over a bridge to go over a bridge to come to BB.

They had made a significant progress on getting the boat to float. And they did the boat, the boat was fine. It was just simply a mishap which again happens if you're in this business long enough. So sinkings do happen. And we have a, a little bit more famous sinking than that one.

Ben Bernstein: When Covington Landing opened in 19, when Covington Landing opened. 92, 91, whatever. Yeah. There was a, a theater kind of a bar, but we built it. A 

Terri Bernstein2: diorama.

Yeah, 

Ben Bernstein: a diorama. It's called a di. Yes. Which is little pieces of, 

Terri Bernstein2: it was a video, temsa and whatever were in there. It 

Alan Bernstein2: was educational. Yeah. There was a model with little people and little cars. Little A light. Little lights. Yeah, [00:31:00] little lights.

And they call it a diorama. I don't know where that comes from. I saw that show 150 times, right? Yeah. And it was about. The discovery of this area and how the Indians and white people, I guess, mixed together. And they discovered this area. 

Ben Bernstein: There was, there was Simon Ketton and Tecumseh, the two right size.

It was local animatronics. 

Alan Bernstein2: We learned that from Chuck E. Cheese. A lot of people don't know that we were a franchisee of the Chuck E. Cheese family entertainment, family entertainment. And we learned Anna animatronics or whatever it's called through them. And someone came up and bought it and we were moving it down the river to Indiana.

Ben Bernstein: It was 

Alan Bernstein2: not overly 

Ben Bernstein: successful. 

Alan Bernstein2: It was. Right. That's fine. You, there's not a big reason why we sold it, but it wasn't overly successful. So we sold it. It was neat. I wish we still had it. Yeah, well you can go see the show, [00:32:00] it's down 

Speaker 3: here. 

Alan Bernstein2: I think the animals and everybody's still there. we were towing it down the river.

Ben Bernstein: You sold it. I sold it. they hired you to deliver it. Right. Then that's a key very key point. Yes, because we did not 

Alan Bernstein2: own The barge. That's correct. It was not our barge. Yes, but anyway going down the river It was a nice day. Yeah, I mean that it wasn't five miles down the road.

No, let's see Yeah, it was right below the Anderson Ferry. So it was ten miles down the river Okay, and we only had about ten miles to go To get it to the destination and the deckhand said, cap let me go take a round. Let me, let me go around the barge. So he went down, he went through the door, the theater, he went through that door, and within about a minute.

The doors [00:33:00] both slammed open, and he's running at a full, at a full pace. Cap! Cap! We're sinking! We're sinking! I said, What? He said, We are sinking! 

Think I said what again and 

Ben Bernstein: he 

Alan Bernstein2: said let off the winches so they were electric winches and you just have to press two buttons. And this is sort of like a cartoon.

When you press those buttons, it loosens the wire. It loosens the wire, which allows the boat to float free, you know, to come. So the boat was so far down in the river, but I didn't know it. I mean, we're pushing along. The boat rears, it's like a, like a horse. It rears back. I go flying over the captain's chair, and I end up on the bench.

Terri Bernstein2: And 

Alan Bernstein2: I, I [00:34:00] have to, I now, I have to fight my way back up to the controls and we get it, get the wires off, and within a second or two the barge is gone. 

Ben Bernstein: Yeah. 

Alan Bernstein2: Outta sight 

Ben Bernstein: gone. If you have a major failure like that, it doesn't last long. 

Alan Bernstein2: Well, and so now we are on the boat floating in the Ohio River.

The barge is down under the water. What the heck do we do? Well I got myself together and I said, okay, we got to call the coast guard and tell the coast guard what happened. And of course they have to come and investigate. And and I start going through the list of things that are required on a commercial boat.

So that when the Coast Guard gets there, they know that you're legit. So, we went down this list of about 20 items. Not one was on the boat. [00:35:00] Not one. Including my license. Including the documentation. Now this is Doesn't mean it 

Ben Bernstein: wasn't documented. That's right. 

Alan Bernstein2: And actually, we could have We produced everything.

Those are very archaic roles. They are. Even when that happened. Yeah. It's like when you get caught driving without a driver's license, but you have a driver's license. So you go and produce the driver's license and then usually you're off the hook. Yeah. So same thing with all these documents, but we got them all on there.

And the coast guard made us put out four buoys that that identified the the outside parts of the barge so that other towboats or other boats navigating the Ohio river could see it. And we did, you know, one, I don't know if we had. Did we bring it [00:36:00] up, Ben? Do you know what we did with it?

Ben Bernstein: I don't know. I don't remember. It might still be under one. I don't know. I remember it being brought up and then syncing again, though. 

Terri Bernstein2: I think the whole barge buckled a second time. 

Ben Bernstein: Well, I believe we got the root cause. You had to bring it up because it was out in the channel. Well, it wasn't that far out.

It was out there. It was out there. It got brought up, but I feel like it. Okay. I don't know. Somebody will have to find. 

Alan Bernstein2: We'll have to find out. We were looking for the root cause of the accident because we didn't take on any water.

It wasn't like we were leaking. And then boom. And there was no reason to, to sort of panic because there was no indication, but what had happened is shoving a barge ahead. Even at slow speeds like we were doing the head log or the, the piece of steel that faces the river caved in. It wasn't strong enough up on the up on the bow where it was reinforced and all that stuff was [00:37:00] it just collapsed.

And that's how all the water came on so fast and so quickly that there wasn't much really to do because it was beyond control. So the diorama sinks and, actually, the show was a pretty decent show. I really enjoyed it. About the history 

Ben Bernstein: of 

Alan Bernstein2: our 

Ben Bernstein: little area here.

And I'd love to have it. I'd love to have it again. 

Alan Bernstein2: Well it would be different if it was here today. I mean, it would be very different. It'd be a lot cheaper to 

Ben Bernstein: do. 

Alan Bernstein2: Sure. 

Ben Bernstein: I get yelled at every week about our episodes being too long. Yes. So we're going to wrap up here soon, but we're going to do one more quick story.

Okay. I guess that's the 

Alan Bernstein2: indication for me to be quick. 

Ben Bernstein: Yeah, it's the indication for you to shut up. Oh, okay. Back to, you know, we already talked about the river hop. We used to do our overnight cruises. And like I said, stop each night and go to the hotel. And we pull into one of the [00:38:00] landings at night and there was nothing to tie to.

Alan Bernstein2: Yes, this is going up river to Marietta. It was a five day, four night trip. And we were I want to say Ironton, but I know it is not Ironton. It was a city along the way that is right up on the river. And the city comes right to the wall of the river. The metered parking is right up against the wall of the river. Right down to the water. Right down, right down to the water. There was a sidewalk and on the sidewalk were pay meters. And you would pay, and then you'd go into town. Town was right along the river. The main street of downtown was right along the river.

So we got there and there was nowhere to tie to. And we had to get people off and we sent the deck hands up there, they couldn't find anywhere to tie the boat and this wasn't the [00:39:00] Belle of Cincinnati. It was, this was a fun line. This was a cabin, Ben and a fun liner. And The deckhands on shore with the radio, we're all floating around trying to figure out what to do.

We had thought there were cavels there, but there weren't. So we tied our headline around two. Meters that were together, two meter posts. That was our headline. Which is the main line, which is the main line. And, and then we found somewhere down a little bit farther to put a line over to, it might've been more meters.

I don't remember at the end, the back, our stern light, our stern line, there was absolutely nowhere, but there was a United States post office mailbox, mailbox, mailbox, . And so we tied it around all four legs of the mailbox. Did you leave it there overnight? Overnight? We absolutely did, and we watched it.

I mean, you know, we, we, well you had, you had an 

Ben Bernstein: overnight guy up anyway. 

Alan Bernstein2: Yeah, we had a guys there were a couple guys up all night long [00:40:00] and it, one of them was to watch, to make sure that we didn't float away . And, and that's just a story that on the river you would get, you won't get that in any. 

Ben Bernstein: I'd tell you some places that's probably that you do the best you can do a tree or a bunch of bushes, 

Alan Bernstein2: you know, 

Ben Bernstein: whatever 

Alan Bernstein2: you can get around.

This is a line. It's, it does not ruin the tree. That tree was there when the, that tree was there in a civil 

Moderator: war. 

Alan Bernstein2: That's a true story.

We tied around we've 

Terri Bernstein2: tied around park benches before and we took. At least one or two of 

Alan Bernstein2: them out. We 

Terri Bernstein2: yank a lot of stuff 

Alan Bernstein2: out of the ground. We do, and I'm surprised we didn't do the meters. But a lot of stuff stays. But I will tell you, when we shook the meters to see if they were They were solid.

And it was in concrete, so I, I think they just put those, they put 'em up and then they filled them with, you know, 

Ben Bernstein: concrete and so, so on on the subject of mooring a boat, Uhhuh, one of the [00:41:00] things that you look for in landings that boats come to on a regular basis. , it's basically a steel loop for lack of a better term that has been covered in concrete with the loop part of the steel bar exposed, that's called a dead man, and that is used for you to shackle a line to, and then tie to now, 

Alan Bernstein2: very reliable.

Very, very, you know, if you have a real dead man, It's very, very reliable that is a real technical term on the river, dead man. Correct. Dig a dead man, put a dead man here, put a dead man, you know, there.

Terri Bernstein2: When I was a little girl, I thought my dad was in the mafia. I heard him one night on the phone with our general manager, Allen Rizzo, that we've had on here a couple times. It was on the 

Ben Bernstein: last episode. This is the last episode. 

Terri Bernstein2: Yeah. And I heard him on the phone and he said, okay, tonight, you know, once the sun goes down, we're going to dig the holes, we're going to lay the dead men and then we'll pour the concrete [00:42:00] and we'll be good in a couple days, you know.

And I thought, my dad's killing people and burying them in the concrete at work. He's, he's in the mafia. 

Ben Bernstein: Digging the holes, yeah. 

Terri Bernstein2: Digging the holes, putting the dead men in, and then pouring the concrete on top. 

Ben Bernstein: When really they were just creating moorings. Well, it took 

Terri Bernstein2: me like a week and I finally said, Dad?

Do you kill people for a living? He's like, what are you talking? Well, you 

Ben Bernstein: had another incident in Owensboro too. 

Terri Bernstein2: I did. They thought I was a crazy drug addict. That was at 

Ben Bernstein: a hotel. Yeah, that was Owensboro. That's when you slept in the closet and then we, then you came down to the boat. You remember you went to a hotel in Owensboro and they had no room.

I slept in the parking lot. 

Terri Bernstein2: They let me in to take a shower and then I, and then I got to come back out. But I was, I was on the boat in the middle of the night and I had the hot pink pajamas on. My hair was a mess. They got me up to, to go tie up the boat and I get out there and I'm walking [00:43:00] up and I've got the line around my shoulder.

I've got a shackle in my hand and the policeman pulls up and he said, Ma'am, can I, can I help you? And I said, I'm looking for a dead man. Do you know where there's a dead man around here and he's looking at me? And i'm like, I need to tie up this boat. I need a dead man and he's like 

Alan Bernstein2: I think you need to 

Ben Bernstein: come 

Alan Bernstein2: with me.

Ben Bernstein: So that's our first installment of our blooper story time. But we will move on to everybody's favorite game. 

Moderator: Now it is time for Ramblin' on the Rivers

word of the 

Ben Bernstein: day. This week's a word or actually words of the day. I, well, it's a, it's a term. Never in my life heard these words come out of anybody's mouth. ,including both of you. Oh, really? Until this became a thing. Well, it's [00:44:00] not a thing.

Today's words of the day are

flotsam and jetsam. And I'm sure there's plenty of other I don't know why your sister didn't do that. I she should have Paying attention here. Here we go. You read today's words of the day are Flotsam 

Terri Bernstein2: and jetsam 

Ben Bernstein: Very good, and I'm thinking just like me. There are many people going What? I don't think there's that many people.

I, I mean, I'm not in 

Terri Bernstein2: the nautical dictionary. 

Ben Bernstein: Maybe 

Terri Bernstein2: I'm the only 

Alan Bernstein2: grammarian of the group. I have a nautical dictionary upstairs and I'll guarantee you it's in there. 

Ben Bernstein: Oh, actually. 

Alan Bernstein2: Oh, you have one. I got the river men's. Oh, it's going 

Ben Bernstein: to be 

Alan Bernstein2: in there. 

Ben Bernstein: Flotsam! Cargo that may be cast overboard or floats away from a vessel that is in [00:45:00] peril.

Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 

Ben Bernstein: The cargo that is lost is to be appraised at its fair value, and the shipper or owner of the goods compensated for the loss. The term goes back to, and prior to, one of the tenets of the laws of Oleron. This is loss of cargo. This loss of cargo becomes known as part of a legal term and entitled General Average of Maritime Perils, whereby the value of the cargo is combined with the vessel, its cargo, and its freight, which is the , vessel owner's charges for transportation, and all parties share in the loss in any restitution.

Alan Bernstein2: Now that plays a big part into the ship that hit the Baltimore Bridge, and the bridge came down, and all that cargo got damaged. Well, yeah, and that's how they settle , that case. But Jetson is stuff that you throw overboard. That isn't probably supposed to go 

Terri Bernstein2: in garbage. Yeah. [00:46:00] 

Alan Bernstein2: So there's flotsam, which is not something that you do personally.

Yeah. And Jetson is something that you do personally throw something overboard or whatever, unfortunately, along the river, a lot of people. Leave a lot of jets a lot of jet a lot a whole lot of oh my gosh 

Terri Bernstein2: I mean the river picks it up, too But it when the river gets high it it picks up a lot of debris 

Alan Bernstein2: and they throw things down storm sewers not Realizing where storm sewers go 

Terri Bernstein2: correct, 

Alan Bernstein2: which is to the river and around here.

We get oil we People change their oil in their car and you're supposed to, you're supposed to dispose of that in a proper way. They just throw it down the drain on the street and it ends up in the river. So flotsam and jetsam is not a new word. In fact, you just probably [00:47:00] said something from very, very old marine law.

Ben Bernstein: That's a very interesting. Never in my life. And I've , never heard either one of you two say it. And I was even more surprised when Terri said the word of the day is flotsam and 

Alan Bernstein2: jetsam Terri and I have definitely heard flotsam and jetsam together because this is all your library time upside. Oh, it might be Might 

Terri Bernstein2: be we share the same brain.

Alan Bernstein2: I'm building a new library. I 

Ben Bernstein: i've heard yeah as part of that Maybe we're gonna be a studio. We're gonna have new studios. Yeah, maybe we can put some stadium style seating for people to come Well, I don't know

Jeff and Mandy Kaplan from 859 Taproom I'm sure would love to come. They still haven't gotten their t shirts. Because you threw them in the back of my car now and expect me to deliver them. They are very nice people. You told them three weeks ago you were taking them out there. I'm a busy person. They are very 

Alan Bernstein2: nice people and everybody should go to their restaurant.

It's a great little restaurant [00:48:00] out in on 

Ben Bernstein: Bunker Street in Florence, the next to 

Alan Bernstein2: the, there's a Buffalo Wild Wings there. 

Ben Bernstein: Yeah, 

Alan Bernstein2: like I, 

Ben Bernstein: it's right behind Tire Discounters I believe. 

Alan Bernstein2: Yeah, it's, it's a little bit difficult. It's not 

Ben Bernstein: difficult. It's 

Alan Bernstein2: not? No. 

Ben Bernstein: Just for me.

Everybody and their mother. Okay. Uses Waze or Google Maps. Oh, not me. You just put it right in. I find my own way. Yeah. Takes you right there. Okay. Okay. all right, moving on. 

Speaker 9: Welcome to as the paddle wheel turns our look at pertinent current events happening right now in the world.

Ben Bernstein: All right. Very excitingly almost, let's see, 11, 12, 13 months from now. We will have the return of a festival that used to happen here in Cincinnati for many, not many, several times. Many times. Seven, yeah. This will be number seven. That has been [00:49:00] very much missed by the Maritime community, by the Cincinnati community.

Tall Stack started in 1988, ran 1988. 19 92, 95. 99. 2003. In 2006. That is correct. And then the housing crisis took the economy to shit, and we have not seen it since. It has been scheduled and canceled subsequently about two or three times. I bet it's probably been more than that. Maybe that it's been to the point where when you mentioned tall stacks or the.

idea of it becoming a festival that most people who even know that even Remember what it was or quickly say yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Yeah, 

Terri Bernstein2: however, this is not called tall This is 

Ben Bernstein: not called tall stacks, but it is tall stacks. Well, I mean It is well the tall stacks and festival decks it has all the same components as tall stacks 

Alan Bernstein2: Yes, it does, but it has a [00:50:00] lot more, and it's called America's River Roots.

Ben Bernstein: And it is designed to kick off the celebrations for the country's 250th birthday. That is correct, and that's in 2026. And this is going to occur in October of 2025 as kind of the beginning appetizer. That's right. Our 

Terri Bernstein2: city wanted the national attention, so they were trying to get out in front of our 

Ben Bernstein: city.

I mean, not to talk out of turn here. Our city should have thought about that and continued on the one unique thing that this city has ever done for itself and figured out a way to subsidize the cost of this. And, but that's a paid political announcement. It is, but I would stand behind that statement because 'cause the fact that's, you know, a hundred or. 200, 000 got in the way of an economic impact that this city has never, has never been able to replicate. You know, this city is [00:51:00] really good , at doing things that other places do. You know, we have the second biggest Oktoberfest in the world.

. Well, that's really cool. We're not in Germany, but we do a lot of neat events, but they're all events that. Are done elsewhere. Yeah. All stacks was the only thing that this city, maybe, maybe I shouldn't say that. I don't know everything that the city does, but.

The reason why we're here that we're in Cincinnati was because of the steamboat heritage and the That's right. The river heritage. And that's what it's celebrated. And frankly, to me it's a sham that it has taken now, well by the time the event.

It takes off 19 years since the last one had happened. 

Alan Bernstein2: But I'm going to defend the city a little bit. Not, not that they don't have a lot to, to blame. This city put on six tall stacks. And did them very, very well. Very well. The problem of the event is [00:52:00] it's very expensive.

And you are dependent totally of mother nature. And, cities don't typically What event aren't you 

Ben Bernstein: dependent on Mother Nature though? Really? 

Alan Bernstein2: Well I mean think about it. You mean outdoor events are all Mother Nature dependent? 

Ben Bernstein: Haste to Cincinnati, October 5th. Yeah, right. Think about it. If you get crap weather, it's a crap event.

That's right. 

Alan Bernstein2: That's right. And we've never had that happen. one day we have one typically came up. Yeah, that was a bad

We'll 

Ben Bernstein: have 

Alan Bernstein2: an episode just on tall stone at 

Ben Bernstein: some point. 

Alan Bernstein2: Oh, yeah, it's coming up. it is coming up, but I was defending the sort of, yeah, I was defending the city this way. It's a difficult event and I can tell you that it's really difficult. It's hard to get your hands around the event.

And cities don't typically do that. And in our area, we have [00:53:00] two states and six or seven cities. That are involved. So just understand that you're not one city. Four counties. Four counties. We have challenges. That's right. Certainly. So that's the only thing I'm defending.

Ben Bernstein: Pretty sure the posted dates are the ninth through the 12th.

Alan Bernstein2: I believe it's the eighth through the 12th, and the seventh is when all votes arrived. This takes 

Ben Bernstein: off. This is ninth 

Terri Bernstein2: through the 12th. Oh, 

Ben Bernstein: yeah. Sponsor night's. Not really part of the, again. Not to sour the event. The event's going to be a great event. Why don't you talk about What the event's going to be. That have no 

Alan Bernstein2: idea, 

Terri Bernstein2: three main components. It has the music. They're going to have 

Alan Bernstein2: eight stages of music, eight different stages, 

Terri Bernstein2: all different types of genre, 

Alan Bernstein2: local, local, 

Terri Bernstein2: everything.

The other component is the culture. They want to bring in the underground railroad. The food, well the, that's the cuisine, 

Alan Bernstein2: Native [00:54:00] American Indians who ruled this land when we got here. All kinds of cultural, cultural, river, 

Terri Bernstein2: freedom, journey, tour, sounds of the river education program. Regional culture, tourism packages, all River Cities Expo.

Ben Bernstein: There will be an industry exhibit. There'll be an which is always really neat about co yeah, co to barges cranes. And then there will be how many boats coming in from out of 10? There will be 

Alan Bernstein2: 12 boats currently. 12. Well, and, and we don't have all the contracts back, but there might be 11, there might be 13.

There might be 14 coming from where? All over the country. St. Paul. The furthest distance is the Colonel from Galveston, Texas. I have made that trip before. Y you have 13 days. Yep. And then St. Paul, new Orleans Let's see Louisville, Pittsburgh LeClaire Iowa. We have quad Cities in Illinois.

The celebration, [00:55:00] celebration Bell 

Terri Bernstein2: Memphis, 

Alan Bernstein2: Memphis Nashville the General Jackson will be here. 

And you can buy tickets.

They're gonna go on sale here before the end of the year. It makes a great Christmas gift. 

Terri Bernstein2: Yep. 

Alan Bernstein2: And we will be on sale publicly for all kinds of November. The beginning of November is the plan. Yeah. That's the plan. And 

Terri Bernstein2: the last component of the event is cuisine. So they're going to try to bring in cuisines from all of these different river cities and right. If you get on a New Orleans 

Ben Bernstein: boat, you're going to have jambalaya. And red beans and rice. Well, 

Terri Bernstein2: on land, they're going to do a whole part of it too. They're going to do a whole. Yeah. Tents. Like tents. 

Alan Bernstein2: They're inviting chefs from those areas to do a demonstration of their food at a stage, or however.

Terri Bernstein2: And then, you know, it's bourbon and beers and, you know, all the things that make our great city. Right. So, 

Ben Bernstein: That's, that's what you have to look forward to. It should be a great event. To give everybody an idea of the scale the last, in [00:56:00] 2006, I think 950, 000 people came through. The event over the four 

Alan Bernstein2: or five day period.

Wednesday to Sunday. We are expecting over a million this time. The event space is much larger and anybody coming down, you need to wear walking shoes. Get comfortable you're gonna walk, if you want to engage in everything, you will walk at least two miles. 

Terri Bernstein2: Well, it's on both sides of the river.

It's 

Alan Bernstein2: on both sides of the river. It goes all the way from the Freedom Park. Or. If you see Al running around, he'll 

Ben Bernstein: have a golf cart. I have a golf cart. He'll take you around. Yeah. I might be busy. He has nothing else to do. He'll be your personal 

Terri Bernstein2: chauffeur. I cannot say that word 

Ben Bernstein: at all. Chauffeur. Chauffeur, yeah.

There's a very famous video from the 1995 Allstacks Highlight VHS tape my father is being interviewed he and I are sitting in [00:57:00] the golf cart. They're interviewing my father He said yeah, this is great. This boats here And I'm sitting next to him and I can't stop yawning.

Just suck in the air. I would love to be able to find that somebody 

Alan Bernstein2: may say, Hey, I have that VHS. Well, I have a picture of it. 

Ben Bernstein: What? A VHS? Oh, that would be even better. I think it's a still picture. Even if somebody has a VHS, does anybody have a VHS player? Oh, I, I, I Does anybody 

Alan Bernstein2: have a TV that you can plug a VHS player into?

I bet Matty 

Terri Bernstein2: Wagenlander can do that. 

Alan Bernstein2: Oh yeah, I'm sure. But wait a minute, there's another famous picture. I think it was an 88. 

Terri Bernstein: Is that you zipped up your sweatshirt? 

Alan Bernstein2: I had zipped up my sweatshirt to a point where it was just my forehead. Did you just show your eyes? Oh, were you napping? Yeah, I was sound asleep.

Because I don't ever remember sleeping in 1980. I really don't. of the five days. I don't think, well, 

Ben Bernstein: we will get more into depth with with tall stacks [00:58:00] and the later episode, but 

Terri Bernstein2: so October 9th through the 12th and America's 

Alan Bernstein2: river roots, 

you will not want to miss the spectacle. It, it gives you a real nice modern day view of what.

It might've been looking like an 1850, 1860 with a lot of boats coming in. And 

Ben Bernstein: really, if you've never been to it, or if you were like many people, probably a kid on a field trip or something like that, when the last one happened or your only experience with tall stacks was probably on the educational end, because there was a lot of, a whole lot of people that came down on that.

Yeah. There were. There were. It is really gonna be quite the sight to see. America's river roots.com is the website. Again, like Terri said, October 9th through the 12th, the boats will start. I'm 

Alan Bernstein2: saying eighth and I think we are doing cruises all day. There there is a pon 

Ben Bernstein: well, Navy, we are doing [00:59:00] all okay all day.

May maybe that will get updated. Okay. But other than that, who knows what we're gonna do the next show 'cause we continue. Talking about the next show. And sometimes we got to pivot. So you will just have to be surprised for the next show. We'll be out next Wednesday, just like every other one at midnight.

And other than that, you have any parting words, anything you want to say hi to the pool ladies? We went through the whole episode without the pool lady 

Alan Bernstein2: And your mother, my wife hi mayor. Cause I've been criticized by the pool ladies that I talk about them more. You do?

Than I talk about my wife. You do? A hundred percent. You criticize 

Ben Bernstein: you too. 

Alan Bernstein2: Oh, well I get a lot of criticism, so I said hi to Mary. And then I'm saying hi to my pool girls. Oh, there you go. Okay. 

Terri Bernstein2: Is it still pool time? Is the pool still open? 

Alan Bernstein2: We're open until October 4th or something like that. They're one of the only ones that We only have 

Terri Bernstein2: a few more weeks of him talking about the pool ladies.

Ben Bernstein: 84 degrees. What do they turn into after pool [01:00:00] ladies? Do they turn into like the saloon ladies? Snow bunnies. Oh my goodness. All right. We will see you next time. Alright.

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Ben Bernstein: The previous episode was brought to you by BB Riverboats. 

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